kaayru
02/08/2006, 20h41
Voilà le dernier débat DP, à traduire avant vendredi (je sais c'est just, mais super utile pour les non anglophones, donc si vous pouvez aider, svp faites le, merci d'avance) :)
TpcT: Welcome to today's DemiPharaoh debate!
TpcT: I'm joined today by the three final candidates: JemGirl, Telanoc, and MacPhisto.
TpcT: Our goal is to let you know a bit about the candidates, and about the Test of the Demi-Pharaoh.
TpcT: Most candidates are usually more than happy to be approached individually with questions, so if you'd like more details on an answer or topic feel free to do so.
TpcT: If you have a question we all might like to know about that hasn't been covered, please send me a /tell during the debate.
TpcT: Welcome candidates. :)
JemGirl: Thanks Tpct :)
MacPhisto: Thank you and thanks for hosting :)
Telanoc: Thank You
TpcT: Also, Kaayru and Soldparadise will be translating the debate into French and German, and will post to the forums. Thanks to you both.
TpcT: First we'll talk a bit about each of the candidates, then go into their thoughts about DP.
TpcT: Please describe some of your favorite accomplishments, this telling or previous. Who helped you achieve them?
JemGirl: Well I have been here for 2 tales and I have been Festival Coordinator for the previous tales. I have become Oracle of Body and Worship for both tales and almost Oracle of Leadership last tale. I really enjoy helping people get therre festival requirements and hosting. The best thing I really enojoyed last telling was heading up the Monument of Body that was a great accoumplishment and I loved the people who made it happen.
JemGirl: I also have made some great friends new and old this telling and hope we always will stay in touch
JemGirl: done
Telanoc: I have a few. Probably the first was the working on the very first Megalopolis that went up, in VoK. We all worked very well together and got the thing up two weeks from the openning of the test. On a personal level passing Darkest Night was very special. Both are in what was my two favorite areas of the game, Architecture and Body, and I became a Sage of both. I like them so much I continued to work on Mega, Aqueducts, and pyramids long after I had passed them myself
Telanoc: Body was a challenge to myself, could I strive to go beyond the simple tasks and work to achieve difficult goals. Architecture for me was about working in a group to achieve something we couldn't do by ourselves.
MacPhisto: I've been playing since the beginning of T1 and one of my accomplishments form that telling was that I acheived sage of leadership. I wouldn't have been able to do that without the support of all my friends.
MacPhisto: During the second telling I started up the Crystal Excange and a small group of friends helped me run it. I like to think it was a great success. And most of that success is attributed to everyone that donated/deposited their Octec crystals so other players would have a place where ther could make trades.
MacPhisto: I was also lucky enough lead the Conflict Monument. And while we didn't get enough people to complete it (21 people short)... I still beleive that it was a great success.
MacPhisto: We may have failed buidling it, but we kept our integrity doing it.
TpcT: ---
TpcT: Briefly, what are your thoughts on the ability of DemiPharaohs to ban people? Do your thoughts differ from others you've spoken to?
Telanoc: My thoughts are that the ban is something that must be treated with the utmost care. It is something that a DP nevers wants to use, just sometimes has not other choice. I equate it to the use of deadly force by law enforcement, it is something you don't want used, and hope you never have to, but at the same time you must be prepared to do so if there is no other choice.
Telanoc: I know that some people hold the ban should never be used, and that is their right. We are here after all to play a game, but it is a game that we have been entrusted to set the conditions of society, and therefore we sometimes have to decide, as a people, what is for the greater good.
Telanoc: So, in short, I would prefer never to have to ban anyone, I would prefer to find a solution through mediation and compromise, but if we most, I would not be afraid to act after all other choices have been exhusted
MacPhisto: The ban is a double-edged sword, you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. It's a pretty useless tool against preventing griefing. The damage is already done and once that person is known for doing something... I think destroying your reputation here is a more powerfull punishment. For a dedicated griefer who doesn't care about that, there a re more creative ways to deal with situations, a ban is not always the answer and shoudl only be a last resort in extreme situations.
MacPhisto: The situations would have to be so extreme that I can't even think of a good example at the moment. The one thing the bans are very usefull is greifing itself...
MacPhisto: and that's what the real problem with them is. I would hope nobody ever uses them in such a manner.
MacPhisto: We have a legal system to deal with issues. It may not be fastest way to deal with something, but "ban them" shouldn't be the answer to every problem either.
JemGirl: My thoughts are that the ban should not be used unless deemeed necessary, but I would thoroughly investigate the situation adn would try to mediate the problem so that we may come up with a solution for all concern. I would also get input from you my fellow egyptians and my fellow dpers before the ban would ever be considered to used.
JemGirl: Last telling the ban was used mainly for griefing and I ended up hearing about them after the fact. Though the peeople who did the ban felt it was needed. I still think more investigation was needed and something less drastic could of been done
JemGirl: I agree with Mac the legal system could be a good example to deal with these problems vs using the ban
TpcT: How do you feel your actions regarding consideration of a ban might differ from those of past or present DemiPharaohs, or from the other candidates?
JemGirl: Well I guess I kinda answered that before when I said that I felt more investigation is needed and probably a less drastic punishment could of been used last telling.
JemGirl: This telling I would have to say so far the incident that did arise was handled well and the ban wasn't even used on the impulse of the situation at hand
JemGirl: I have to say who every was involved handled this situation with utmost care when the issue of using the ban was present
MacPhisto: I like to make sure I have all the facts before I act on something. I also value the input of people I know and trust and the other DPs. I'm not going to say I'm going to run out and ban every person that griefs someone or that I'll never use the bans either. A situation may arise where banning is the only choice and that choice would not be made lightly or alone. If I don't have the support of Egypt I'm not going to do it. Communication can solve more problems.
Telanoc: As I have alluded to previously, there are some people, some of whom have been or run for Demi-Pharaoh that believe the ban should never, under any circumstances be used. I differ from that in that would be willing to consider a ban when all other avenues have not yielded a solution. Which is not to say I would be casual about its us, I believe very firmly in due process, and it would only be used as a last resort, but I would consider its use
TpcT: ---
TpcT: Some might consider being DemiPharaoh as a 'job.' Not including the ability to ban, what do you consider the responsibilities of a DemiPharaoh to be? How about the responsibilities of a leader in Egypt, or of a normal player?
MacPhisto: I don't consider DP to be a 'job'. I think a DP should continue to do everything they already do/have done before becoming DP. The title doesn't automatically make you better than everyone else in Egypt and doesn't give you permission to force your views upon everyone. A leader should try to set an example in everything they do from the way the treat people to how they go about playing the game and passing tests. It's not jsut limited to the leadership discipline.
MacPhisto: They shouldn't be poking their nose into other people's business, taking over their projects or furthering thier own personal agendas.
MacPhisto: They should be a person that every feels they can talk to and ask for help if they need it. Whether it be for a project or a problem.
acPhisto: A DP should be a communicator, could be a mediator and shouldn't be a dictator.
Telanoc: Alas, Mac has articulated most of my views quite wonderfully. Being a Demi-Pharaoh does not give you any more value then not being one. Being a leader of the people is something that you do everyday, if is a small guild of three people, or a hundred people working on a large project.
Telanoc: Being a DP is not a "job", your are an example for what sets the exceptations of our society.
Telanoc: It is a responsibility, it is an honor.
JemGirl: A DP's responsiblity is be there when conflict arises and also able to help our fellow egyptians if needed. That is why I have been helping my fellow egyptians to in the task to particpate and try to pass the Test of Festivals. I also feel that a person should not change just because they are dp they should still consider this a game and to have fun by doing the test they want cause it makes them enjoy the game. DP should not be a job it should be a person there to help others in need or mediate when problems occurs
JemGirl: If you make DP one of your only task in a game it could make you not like the game, so always a dp should look at other aspects to the game to keep the fun alive.
TpcT: ---
TpcT: You all mentioned conflict mediation as something a leader might do. Without giving too many details, can you describe a situation where you mediated a dispute?
Telanoc: We here in this game are played by real people, and real people will have disputes with one another, that is natural part of human society. It could be simple misunderstanding, or it could intractable differences. That is where the role of DP as mediator comes in, they should a neutral party that can see that validity of both sides, and calmly attempt to find a common ground. Most people are by nature willing to cooperate, but sometimes they got so stuck on being "right" that reason is longer part of it.
Telanoc: Usually, most of what I have seen is people feel that they have been treated unfairly by another party, such as in a trade.
Telanoc: It is the DPs task to listen to both sides, and work for a solution.
JemGirl: This is a real hard question to answer and we did have problems with time conflicts in Tale 1 with festivals but we tried to accomadate all at various different times that did satisfy all that involved. In Tale 2 though it was alot rougher but I was happy we got most of th people passed and that was what I wanted to accomplish if I was able.
JemGirl: Unfortunitly when people had trouble getting there requirement I tried my utmost to get there supplies even if I did do them myself.
MacPhisto: For actual disputes... the only types I've had a part in were very minor ones like a bonfire built in an inconvenient spot or stones picked up from a dig...
MacPhisto: they were solved simply by talking and explaining how a dig works for example. Most issues arrise out of a lack of communication.
MacPhisto: I've been asked my opinion over the years about other larger issues. And I have only been part of 1 major issue that resulted in a banning last telling. I stayed out of it becasue I was minimally affected by it and my opinions about it would have been biased.
TpcT: ---
TpcT: What are your thoughts on VoK? Giant sheep, or aliens? ;)
Telanoc: Alien Sheep of course :P
MacPhisto: Giant alien sheep
MacPhisto: They've been watching how we treat their cousins here... and it's payback time
JemGirl: I would have to say givem me a baaaaerk
Telanoc: The Truth is Out There
TpcT: ---
JemGirl: wait I won't to find the Truth that is my home for two tellings and I want it back
JemGirl: loves VoK
JemGirl: sorry done
TpcT: hehe
TpcT: Do you feel you interact well with other leaders in Egypt? Have you ever identified opportunities to make Egypt a better place and passed those opportunities to other leaders that may be better suited than you to tackle the problem? Related to that, what do you know of the other candidates' leadership qualities?
MacPhisto: I think I get along quite well with the other leaders here. I've never had any problems with anyone and I tell them what I think when I feel it's appropriate
MacPhisto: They ask me my opinions on things and I ask them for theirs. I've worked with almost all of them many times for various reasons over the years.
MacPhisto: They know me and understand me and what my strangths and weaknesses are.. and I know theirs.
MacPhisto: As for the other candidates, I've known both of them for quite some time.
MacPhisto: I trust everyone currently standing next to me
MacPhisto: I think they make good leaders and have shown it in the past
MacPhisto: and currently
JemGirl: I am friends with the other two dp's and has been since Tale 1's player meet. I have always gave my input on siturations if they are asked to my fellow leaders and I hope my enlightenment helped them in ways. As for my fellow Candidates I have know Mac for two tellings and Telanoc for last tale. Both guys have there views and I would trust both of them with whatever outcome occurs. I will always be there to stand on the side lines to help them if they need me.
JemGirl: I think both are leaders in themselves and proud to know them
Telanoc: I interact rather welll with the leaders of our community that have emerged over the ages. I know most, would call most of them friends, and of the ones I do know I can say that I respect them even if we don't always agree. I have sought advise from many, and offered my own.
Telanoc: As for my fellow candidates, and their ability to lead, my opinion does not matter any more then anyone elses. They have proven themselves before by the support they have engendered from the people of Egypt. That is the measure of their qualifications to lead.
JemGirl: fine
TpcT: ---
TpcT: We've been at it for about 2 hours, so we're going to take a quick break. The debate shouldn't last a lot longer (maybe 45-60 minutes).
TpcT: How do you feel about society here in Egypt this telling? How can we improve it, if needed?
JemGirl: I think the society this telling has grown in size and we have more new players than past telling which is nice to see. I guess the only way to improve on it is to be helpful to those who are new and teach them the way of the game.
MacPhisto: As a whole I think we have a great society here this telling. People are funny and helpfull and that makes it fun to be here. And if we stay that way, it can only get better.
Telanoc: I like the society we have here, it is like a family. It isn't very often you can land in place and meet so many friendly and helpful people. We might not always get along, but in the end we watch out for one another
TpcT: ---
However, it is a factor
TpcT: The spouse of a DemiPharaoh has the ability to log in as the DP and use the power to ban. Should a candidate's spouse, or potential future spouse, be considered as a candidate as well?
Telanoc: Yes, they have to be by the nature of the power entrusted to the DP. It is unfortunate, and ideally if we believe a potential DP has good judgement in the exercise of their power they would have equal judgement in choosing a spouse.
TpcT: Do you plan to marry, Telanoc?
Telanoc: Plan to? No, I can't say that it seems likely at this time.
MacPhisto: I think a candidates spouse should be taken into consideration. If you're voting for an unmarried then you're voting for an unknown quantity. I'm married to Zanna and she is the only person in the game that trust 100% with my account. We log on as each other from time to time for various reasons, this telling for the spouse warp or to help someone out with their harmony init (we were both oracles in times long past).
MacPhisto: With that said, if you trust us to be DP, then you should trust our judgement with respect to whow we are married to or may marry.
MacPhisto: I've been married to Zanna since the first telling and will be for as long as we're playing. If I have to choose between being DP or married to Zanna.... I'll pick Zanna.
JemGirl: Yes, I would agree a spouse has to be viewed in relationship to the ban, but I do feel that if the person who is running doesn't trust his or her spouse than they should of not married him. I married Aberdon and yes he did unattended macro in which he fell asleep at the keyboard and was exiled by Teppy but let back in this tale. I do highly trust him and I know in my heart that he would never do that again or even hurt me and use my ban for his own purpose.
JemGirl: Though I know some peopel would not see that and I respect that, but I will stand by him adn I know he will do the same for me.
TpcT: ---
TpcT: Demi-Pharaoh is one of the most difficult Leadership tests. Do you plan to become an Oracle of Leadership and built the Monument of Leadership at the end of the telling?
MacPhisto: I've scribbled leadership oracle in somewhere between crossbreeding flax and hoping we get more conflcit tournaments...
MacPhisto: I'm not going to go out of my way to be the first to pass all the leadership tests. They are included in the path I plan to take in the game, otherwise I wouldn't be standing here.
MacPhisto: I'm confident I can do it, but I"m not going to lead myself down a path that ends with me burning out and quitting
MacPhisto: I've managed to stay playing consistently since the beginning of T1 and I plan to be here until the end. Oracle is a goal, but I'm not going to sacrifice what I love doing here jsut to attain it.
MacPhisto: If I make oracle, I'm sure there will be more than jsut me. I don't need to be the one to build the monument and that's something we'll figure out when the time comes.
MacPhisto: I play to have fun and I will continue to do that and leadership tests fall under that category for me.
JemGirl: yes I do plan on going to the end of the telling and hoping to become Oracle and help build the monument, but I am going to make time for other stuff so that I would keep my interest varied so that I don't get bored. My main goal is to have fun and if I become Oracle that is great, but its not going to be my number one prority cause other things in this game have equal interest to me
Telanoc: Yes, I would like to become an Oracle of Leadership if I am worthy to be one. Like the others, I have diverse interests, and many things that I wish to undertake, so it is not a headlong pursuit. If I should become an Oracle, I would not build the monument. The construction of the monument is group effort, one that as an Oracle you must coordinate and inspire others, but to claim that one person "built" a monument is folly. It is the work of the people, and should always been seen as such
TpcT: ---
TpcT: We're going to conclude the debate here. We didn't have time to cover a lot of interesting topics, but I hope you all managed to get a good feel for the candidates. :)
JemGirl: Thanks all for listening and Thanks to Tpct for hosting today's debate
JemGirl: Goodnight all
TpcT: Thanks for participating in DP!
MacPhisto: Thanks for staying awake to listen!
Telanoc: Good Night Egypt, be well :)
MacPhisto: If anyone out there has any other questions, feel free to chat me and ask. I don't bite...
Telanoc: Unless you ask him
TpcT: Again, a translation of this debate in French and German should be posted to the forum at atitd.net/forum sometimes soon, thanks to Kaayru and Soldparadise.
TpcT: Have a great night, everyone. :)
Teao: And thanks to TpcT for running a great debate!
MacPhisto: It's been fun :)
MacPhisto: Thanks for hosting
Telanoc: Thank you TpcT, thank you Jemgirl and MacPhisto, Good luck to all :)
TpcT: Welcome to today's DemiPharaoh debate!
TpcT: I'm joined today by the three final candidates: JemGirl, Telanoc, and MacPhisto.
TpcT: Our goal is to let you know a bit about the candidates, and about the Test of the Demi-Pharaoh.
TpcT: Most candidates are usually more than happy to be approached individually with questions, so if you'd like more details on an answer or topic feel free to do so.
TpcT: If you have a question we all might like to know about that hasn't been covered, please send me a /tell during the debate.
TpcT: Welcome candidates. :)
JemGirl: Thanks Tpct :)
MacPhisto: Thank you and thanks for hosting :)
Telanoc: Thank You
TpcT: Also, Kaayru and Soldparadise will be translating the debate into French and German, and will post to the forums. Thanks to you both.
TpcT: First we'll talk a bit about each of the candidates, then go into their thoughts about DP.
TpcT: Please describe some of your favorite accomplishments, this telling or previous. Who helped you achieve them?
JemGirl: Well I have been here for 2 tales and I have been Festival Coordinator for the previous tales. I have become Oracle of Body and Worship for both tales and almost Oracle of Leadership last tale. I really enjoy helping people get therre festival requirements and hosting. The best thing I really enojoyed last telling was heading up the Monument of Body that was a great accoumplishment and I loved the people who made it happen.
JemGirl: I also have made some great friends new and old this telling and hope we always will stay in touch
JemGirl: done
Telanoc: I have a few. Probably the first was the working on the very first Megalopolis that went up, in VoK. We all worked very well together and got the thing up two weeks from the openning of the test. On a personal level passing Darkest Night was very special. Both are in what was my two favorite areas of the game, Architecture and Body, and I became a Sage of both. I like them so much I continued to work on Mega, Aqueducts, and pyramids long after I had passed them myself
Telanoc: Body was a challenge to myself, could I strive to go beyond the simple tasks and work to achieve difficult goals. Architecture for me was about working in a group to achieve something we couldn't do by ourselves.
MacPhisto: I've been playing since the beginning of T1 and one of my accomplishments form that telling was that I acheived sage of leadership. I wouldn't have been able to do that without the support of all my friends.
MacPhisto: During the second telling I started up the Crystal Excange and a small group of friends helped me run it. I like to think it was a great success. And most of that success is attributed to everyone that donated/deposited their Octec crystals so other players would have a place where ther could make trades.
MacPhisto: I was also lucky enough lead the Conflict Monument. And while we didn't get enough people to complete it (21 people short)... I still beleive that it was a great success.
MacPhisto: We may have failed buidling it, but we kept our integrity doing it.
TpcT: ---
TpcT: Briefly, what are your thoughts on the ability of DemiPharaohs to ban people? Do your thoughts differ from others you've spoken to?
Telanoc: My thoughts are that the ban is something that must be treated with the utmost care. It is something that a DP nevers wants to use, just sometimes has not other choice. I equate it to the use of deadly force by law enforcement, it is something you don't want used, and hope you never have to, but at the same time you must be prepared to do so if there is no other choice.
Telanoc: I know that some people hold the ban should never be used, and that is their right. We are here after all to play a game, but it is a game that we have been entrusted to set the conditions of society, and therefore we sometimes have to decide, as a people, what is for the greater good.
Telanoc: So, in short, I would prefer never to have to ban anyone, I would prefer to find a solution through mediation and compromise, but if we most, I would not be afraid to act after all other choices have been exhusted
MacPhisto: The ban is a double-edged sword, you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. It's a pretty useless tool against preventing griefing. The damage is already done and once that person is known for doing something... I think destroying your reputation here is a more powerfull punishment. For a dedicated griefer who doesn't care about that, there a re more creative ways to deal with situations, a ban is not always the answer and shoudl only be a last resort in extreme situations.
MacPhisto: The situations would have to be so extreme that I can't even think of a good example at the moment. The one thing the bans are very usefull is greifing itself...
MacPhisto: and that's what the real problem with them is. I would hope nobody ever uses them in such a manner.
MacPhisto: We have a legal system to deal with issues. It may not be fastest way to deal with something, but "ban them" shouldn't be the answer to every problem either.
JemGirl: My thoughts are that the ban should not be used unless deemeed necessary, but I would thoroughly investigate the situation adn would try to mediate the problem so that we may come up with a solution for all concern. I would also get input from you my fellow egyptians and my fellow dpers before the ban would ever be considered to used.
JemGirl: Last telling the ban was used mainly for griefing and I ended up hearing about them after the fact. Though the peeople who did the ban felt it was needed. I still think more investigation was needed and something less drastic could of been done
JemGirl: I agree with Mac the legal system could be a good example to deal with these problems vs using the ban
TpcT: How do you feel your actions regarding consideration of a ban might differ from those of past or present DemiPharaohs, or from the other candidates?
JemGirl: Well I guess I kinda answered that before when I said that I felt more investigation is needed and probably a less drastic punishment could of been used last telling.
JemGirl: This telling I would have to say so far the incident that did arise was handled well and the ban wasn't even used on the impulse of the situation at hand
JemGirl: I have to say who every was involved handled this situation with utmost care when the issue of using the ban was present
MacPhisto: I like to make sure I have all the facts before I act on something. I also value the input of people I know and trust and the other DPs. I'm not going to say I'm going to run out and ban every person that griefs someone or that I'll never use the bans either. A situation may arise where banning is the only choice and that choice would not be made lightly or alone. If I don't have the support of Egypt I'm not going to do it. Communication can solve more problems.
Telanoc: As I have alluded to previously, there are some people, some of whom have been or run for Demi-Pharaoh that believe the ban should never, under any circumstances be used. I differ from that in that would be willing to consider a ban when all other avenues have not yielded a solution. Which is not to say I would be casual about its us, I believe very firmly in due process, and it would only be used as a last resort, but I would consider its use
TpcT: ---
TpcT: Some might consider being DemiPharaoh as a 'job.' Not including the ability to ban, what do you consider the responsibilities of a DemiPharaoh to be? How about the responsibilities of a leader in Egypt, or of a normal player?
MacPhisto: I don't consider DP to be a 'job'. I think a DP should continue to do everything they already do/have done before becoming DP. The title doesn't automatically make you better than everyone else in Egypt and doesn't give you permission to force your views upon everyone. A leader should try to set an example in everything they do from the way the treat people to how they go about playing the game and passing tests. It's not jsut limited to the leadership discipline.
MacPhisto: They shouldn't be poking their nose into other people's business, taking over their projects or furthering thier own personal agendas.
MacPhisto: They should be a person that every feels they can talk to and ask for help if they need it. Whether it be for a project or a problem.
acPhisto: A DP should be a communicator, could be a mediator and shouldn't be a dictator.
Telanoc: Alas, Mac has articulated most of my views quite wonderfully. Being a Demi-Pharaoh does not give you any more value then not being one. Being a leader of the people is something that you do everyday, if is a small guild of three people, or a hundred people working on a large project.
Telanoc: Being a DP is not a "job", your are an example for what sets the exceptations of our society.
Telanoc: It is a responsibility, it is an honor.
JemGirl: A DP's responsiblity is be there when conflict arises and also able to help our fellow egyptians if needed. That is why I have been helping my fellow egyptians to in the task to particpate and try to pass the Test of Festivals. I also feel that a person should not change just because they are dp they should still consider this a game and to have fun by doing the test they want cause it makes them enjoy the game. DP should not be a job it should be a person there to help others in need or mediate when problems occurs
JemGirl: If you make DP one of your only task in a game it could make you not like the game, so always a dp should look at other aspects to the game to keep the fun alive.
TpcT: ---
TpcT: You all mentioned conflict mediation as something a leader might do. Without giving too many details, can you describe a situation where you mediated a dispute?
Telanoc: We here in this game are played by real people, and real people will have disputes with one another, that is natural part of human society. It could be simple misunderstanding, or it could intractable differences. That is where the role of DP as mediator comes in, they should a neutral party that can see that validity of both sides, and calmly attempt to find a common ground. Most people are by nature willing to cooperate, but sometimes they got so stuck on being "right" that reason is longer part of it.
Telanoc: Usually, most of what I have seen is people feel that they have been treated unfairly by another party, such as in a trade.
Telanoc: It is the DPs task to listen to both sides, and work for a solution.
JemGirl: This is a real hard question to answer and we did have problems with time conflicts in Tale 1 with festivals but we tried to accomadate all at various different times that did satisfy all that involved. In Tale 2 though it was alot rougher but I was happy we got most of th people passed and that was what I wanted to accomplish if I was able.
JemGirl: Unfortunitly when people had trouble getting there requirement I tried my utmost to get there supplies even if I did do them myself.
MacPhisto: For actual disputes... the only types I've had a part in were very minor ones like a bonfire built in an inconvenient spot or stones picked up from a dig...
MacPhisto: they were solved simply by talking and explaining how a dig works for example. Most issues arrise out of a lack of communication.
MacPhisto: I've been asked my opinion over the years about other larger issues. And I have only been part of 1 major issue that resulted in a banning last telling. I stayed out of it becasue I was minimally affected by it and my opinions about it would have been biased.
TpcT: ---
TpcT: What are your thoughts on VoK? Giant sheep, or aliens? ;)
Telanoc: Alien Sheep of course :P
MacPhisto: Giant alien sheep
MacPhisto: They've been watching how we treat their cousins here... and it's payback time
JemGirl: I would have to say givem me a baaaaerk
Telanoc: The Truth is Out There
TpcT: ---
JemGirl: wait I won't to find the Truth that is my home for two tellings and I want it back
JemGirl: loves VoK
JemGirl: sorry done
TpcT: hehe
TpcT: Do you feel you interact well with other leaders in Egypt? Have you ever identified opportunities to make Egypt a better place and passed those opportunities to other leaders that may be better suited than you to tackle the problem? Related to that, what do you know of the other candidates' leadership qualities?
MacPhisto: I think I get along quite well with the other leaders here. I've never had any problems with anyone and I tell them what I think when I feel it's appropriate
MacPhisto: They ask me my opinions on things and I ask them for theirs. I've worked with almost all of them many times for various reasons over the years.
MacPhisto: They know me and understand me and what my strangths and weaknesses are.. and I know theirs.
MacPhisto: As for the other candidates, I've known both of them for quite some time.
MacPhisto: I trust everyone currently standing next to me
MacPhisto: I think they make good leaders and have shown it in the past
MacPhisto: and currently
JemGirl: I am friends with the other two dp's and has been since Tale 1's player meet. I have always gave my input on siturations if they are asked to my fellow leaders and I hope my enlightenment helped them in ways. As for my fellow Candidates I have know Mac for two tellings and Telanoc for last tale. Both guys have there views and I would trust both of them with whatever outcome occurs. I will always be there to stand on the side lines to help them if they need me.
JemGirl: I think both are leaders in themselves and proud to know them
Telanoc: I interact rather welll with the leaders of our community that have emerged over the ages. I know most, would call most of them friends, and of the ones I do know I can say that I respect them even if we don't always agree. I have sought advise from many, and offered my own.
Telanoc: As for my fellow candidates, and their ability to lead, my opinion does not matter any more then anyone elses. They have proven themselves before by the support they have engendered from the people of Egypt. That is the measure of their qualifications to lead.
JemGirl: fine
TpcT: ---
TpcT: We've been at it for about 2 hours, so we're going to take a quick break. The debate shouldn't last a lot longer (maybe 45-60 minutes).
TpcT: How do you feel about society here in Egypt this telling? How can we improve it, if needed?
JemGirl: I think the society this telling has grown in size and we have more new players than past telling which is nice to see. I guess the only way to improve on it is to be helpful to those who are new and teach them the way of the game.
MacPhisto: As a whole I think we have a great society here this telling. People are funny and helpfull and that makes it fun to be here. And if we stay that way, it can only get better.
Telanoc: I like the society we have here, it is like a family. It isn't very often you can land in place and meet so many friendly and helpful people. We might not always get along, but in the end we watch out for one another
TpcT: ---
However, it is a factor
TpcT: The spouse of a DemiPharaoh has the ability to log in as the DP and use the power to ban. Should a candidate's spouse, or potential future spouse, be considered as a candidate as well?
Telanoc: Yes, they have to be by the nature of the power entrusted to the DP. It is unfortunate, and ideally if we believe a potential DP has good judgement in the exercise of their power they would have equal judgement in choosing a spouse.
TpcT: Do you plan to marry, Telanoc?
Telanoc: Plan to? No, I can't say that it seems likely at this time.
MacPhisto: I think a candidates spouse should be taken into consideration. If you're voting for an unmarried then you're voting for an unknown quantity. I'm married to Zanna and she is the only person in the game that trust 100% with my account. We log on as each other from time to time for various reasons, this telling for the spouse warp or to help someone out with their harmony init (we were both oracles in times long past).
MacPhisto: With that said, if you trust us to be DP, then you should trust our judgement with respect to whow we are married to or may marry.
MacPhisto: I've been married to Zanna since the first telling and will be for as long as we're playing. If I have to choose between being DP or married to Zanna.... I'll pick Zanna.
JemGirl: Yes, I would agree a spouse has to be viewed in relationship to the ban, but I do feel that if the person who is running doesn't trust his or her spouse than they should of not married him. I married Aberdon and yes he did unattended macro in which he fell asleep at the keyboard and was exiled by Teppy but let back in this tale. I do highly trust him and I know in my heart that he would never do that again or even hurt me and use my ban for his own purpose.
JemGirl: Though I know some peopel would not see that and I respect that, but I will stand by him adn I know he will do the same for me.
TpcT: ---
TpcT: Demi-Pharaoh is one of the most difficult Leadership tests. Do you plan to become an Oracle of Leadership and built the Monument of Leadership at the end of the telling?
MacPhisto: I've scribbled leadership oracle in somewhere between crossbreeding flax and hoping we get more conflcit tournaments...
MacPhisto: I'm not going to go out of my way to be the first to pass all the leadership tests. They are included in the path I plan to take in the game, otherwise I wouldn't be standing here.
MacPhisto: I'm confident I can do it, but I"m not going to lead myself down a path that ends with me burning out and quitting
MacPhisto: I've managed to stay playing consistently since the beginning of T1 and I plan to be here until the end. Oracle is a goal, but I'm not going to sacrifice what I love doing here jsut to attain it.
MacPhisto: If I make oracle, I'm sure there will be more than jsut me. I don't need to be the one to build the monument and that's something we'll figure out when the time comes.
MacPhisto: I play to have fun and I will continue to do that and leadership tests fall under that category for me.
JemGirl: yes I do plan on going to the end of the telling and hoping to become Oracle and help build the monument, but I am going to make time for other stuff so that I would keep my interest varied so that I don't get bored. My main goal is to have fun and if I become Oracle that is great, but its not going to be my number one prority cause other things in this game have equal interest to me
Telanoc: Yes, I would like to become an Oracle of Leadership if I am worthy to be one. Like the others, I have diverse interests, and many things that I wish to undertake, so it is not a headlong pursuit. If I should become an Oracle, I would not build the monument. The construction of the monument is group effort, one that as an Oracle you must coordinate and inspire others, but to claim that one person "built" a monument is folly. It is the work of the people, and should always been seen as such
TpcT: ---
TpcT: We're going to conclude the debate here. We didn't have time to cover a lot of interesting topics, but I hope you all managed to get a good feel for the candidates. :)
JemGirl: Thanks all for listening and Thanks to Tpct for hosting today's debate
JemGirl: Goodnight all
TpcT: Thanks for participating in DP!
MacPhisto: Thanks for staying awake to listen!
Telanoc: Good Night Egypt, be well :)
MacPhisto: If anyone out there has any other questions, feel free to chat me and ask. I don't bite...
Telanoc: Unless you ask him
TpcT: Again, a translation of this debate in French and German should be posted to the forum at atitd.net/forum sometimes soon, thanks to Kaayru and Soldparadise.
TpcT: Have a great night, everyone. :)
Teao: And thanks to TpcT for running a great debate!
MacPhisto: It's been fun :)
MacPhisto: Thanks for hosting
Telanoc: Thank you TpcT, thank you Jemgirl and MacPhisto, Good luck to all :)